NFL Draft 2021

A Stanford qb David Mills-ről mi a vélemény? Middle round gondolom, de azon kívül? Mondjuk Trask-hoz képest?
warr_b

Nagy sleepernek gondolják sokan.

2 intriguing QB's outside the top 5 guys- Davis Mills (Stanford) & Kellen Mond (Texas A&M). Both guys have a lot to work with & showed improvement this past season. Mond made some huge throws against FL & Bama. Followed that up with SR Bowl MVP. Both could develop into starters.

— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) March 2, 2021

iktriad

aki a stanfordon tudományt és technológiát tanul az csak jó lehet 😀, bár árnyalja a képet hogy 98-as születésű, de azért az irányítóknál ez még önmagában nem nagy hátrány

A Stanford qb David Mills-ről mi a vélemény? Middle round gondolom, de azon kívül? Mondjuk Trask-hoz képest?
warr_b

Nagy sleepernek gondolják sokan.

2 intriguing QB's outside the top 5 guys- Davis Mills (Stanford) & Kellen Mond (Texas A&M). Both guys have a lot to work with & showed improvement this past season. Mond made some huge throws against FL & Bama. Followed that up with SR Bowl MVP. Both could develop into starters.

— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) March 2, 2021

Northwestern-en volt Pro Day, szépen folytatódik majd egyre több helyen.

Slater jól mozgott, bár már előtte is elég szépen felkúszott a boardokon.

A Stanford qb David Mills-ről mi a vélemény? Middle round gondolom, de azon kívül? Mondjuk Trask-hoz képest?

A védőfalban vakahogy mindig megbújik néhány Afrika kupáról szalasztott gyöngyszem
gabokocka

Jó, hát majdnem ugyanaz, mint az oroszlánnal birkózás: a hand technique-t onnan hozzák, "távol az agyarakkal" jelszóval, kell a motor, ha menekülni kell és a bench press sem árt.

A védőfalban vakahogy mindig megbújik néhány Afrika kupáról szalasztott gyöngyszem

Óóó, emlékszem 2017 februárjában mekkora örömmel írtam le, hogy Falóval erősítenek a Trójaiak 😊

És ami mindig kell...
All-Name Team NFL Draft 2021 (a vastag betűs az 1. csapatos):
QB: Kellen Mond (Texas A&M), Shane Buechele (SMU)
RB: Jake Funk (Maryland), Vavae Malepeai (USC), Jah-Maine Martin (North Carolina A&T), Rhamondre Stevenson (Oklahoma)
FB: Giovanni Fauolo (UNLV), Mason Stokke (Wisconsin)
TE: Pro Wells (TCU), Andrew Homer (Miami-Oh), Josh Falo (USC), Hunter Kampmoyer (Oregon)
WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown (USC), Ramaud Chiaokhiao-Bowman (Northwestern), Whop Philyor (Indiana), Racey McMath (LSU), Josh Imatorbhebhe (Illinois), L'Liott Curry (Henderson State)
OT: Jacob Shoemaker (South Alabama), Alex Leatherwood (Alabama), Jackson Carman (Clemson), Gunnar Vogel (Northwestern)
OG: Alijah Vera-Tucker (USC), Alex Mollette (Marshall), Kohl Levao (Hawaii), Nolan Laufenberg (Air Force)
C: Vitaliy Gurman (Toledo), Michal Menet (Penn State)

DE: Adetokunbo Ogundeji (Notre Dame), Dayo Odeyingbo (Vanderbilt), Chinedu Udeogu (Illinois), Alani Pututau (Adams State), Inoka Moala (Indiana State), Romeo McKnight (Charlotte)
DT: Prince Emili (Penn), Isaiahh Loudermilk (Wisconsin), Jared Goldwire (Louisville), Osawaru Odighizuwa (UCLA)
ILB: Amen Ogbongbemiga (Oklahoma State), Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (Notre Dame), Bryce Notree (Southern Illinois), Tuf Borland (Ohio State)
OLB: Malcolm Koonce (Buffalo), Alexy Jean-Baptiste (Florida International), Hamilcar Rashed Jr. (Oregon State), Joe Tryon (Washington)
CB: Deommodore Lenoir (Oregon), Dicaprio Bootle (Nebraska), Shaun Shamburger (Tennessee), Benjamin St-Juste (Minnesota)
S: Richard LeCounte (Georgia), Augustus Contressa (Stony Brook), Talanoa Hufanga (USC), Hamsah Nasirildeen (Florida State)

K: Quinn Nordin (Michigan), Alex Kessman (Pittsburgh)
P: Oscar Draguicevich III (Washington State), Ryan Stonehouse (Colorado State)
LS: Cameron Cheeseman (Michigan), Brett DioGuardi (Florida)
empty taxi

Az ekőző éviekhez képest ez nagyon gyengécske felhozatal 😊

TE, CB, WR erős, a többi nem annyira valóban 😊

A gyűjtésért ment a like, de ennél voltak sokkal erősebb évek. 😊

És ami mindig kell...
All-Name Team NFL Draft 2021 (a vastag betűs az 1. csapatos):
QB: Kellen Mond (Texas A&M), Shane Buechele (SMU)
RB: Jake Funk (Maryland), Vavae Malepeai (USC), Jah-Maine Martin (North Carolina A&T), Rhamondre Stevenson (Oklahoma)
FB: Giovanni Fauolo (UNLV), Mason Stokke (Wisconsin)
TE: Pro Wells (TCU), Andrew Homer (Miami-Oh), Josh Falo (USC), Hunter Kampmoyer (Oregon)
WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown (USC), Ramaud Chiaokhiao-Bowman (Northwestern), Whop Philyor (Indiana), Racey McMath (LSU), Josh Imatorbhebhe (Illinois), L'Liott Curry (Henderson State)
OT: Jacob Shoemaker (South Alabama), Alex Leatherwood (Alabama), Jackson Carman (Clemson), Gunnar Vogel (Northwestern)
OG: Alijah Vera-Tucker (USC), Alex Mollette (Marshall), Kohl Levao (Hawaii), Nolan Laufenberg (Air Force)
C: Vitaliy Gurman (Toledo), Michal Menet (Penn State)

DE: Adetokunbo Ogundeji (Notre Dame), Dayo Odeyingbo (Vanderbilt), Chinedu Udeogu (Illinois), Alani Pututau (Adams State), Inoka Moala (Indiana State), Romeo McKnight (Charlotte)
DT: Prince Emili (Penn), Isaiahh Loudermilk (Wisconsin), Jared Goldwire (Louisville), Osawaru Odighizuwa (UCLA)
ILB: Amen Ogbongbemiga (Oklahoma State), Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (Notre Dame), Bryce Notree (Southern Illinois), Tuf Borland (Ohio State)
OLB: Malcolm Koonce (Buffalo), Alexy Jean-Baptiste (Florida International), Hamilcar Rashed Jr. (Oregon State), Joe Tryon (Washington)
CB: Deommodore Lenoir (Oregon), Dicaprio Bootle (Nebraska), Shaun Shamburger (Tennessee), Benjamin St-Juste (Minnesota)
S: Richard LeCounte (Georgia), Augustus Contressa (Stony Brook), Talanoa Hufanga (USC), Hamsah Nasirildeen (Florida State)

K: Quinn Nordin (Michigan), Alex Kessman (Pittsburgh)
P: Oscar Draguicevich III (Washington State), Ryan Stonehouse (Colorado State)
LS: Cameron Cheeseman (Michigan), Brett DioGuardi (Florida)

Ehlingerről mik a vélemények?

Hm...

Media driving narrative that Justin Fields could go 2nd Overall and a team must trade into top 5 to land the Ohio St QB. Maybe they’re correct, but it seems like everyone that’s got some league connects is asking “How Far will Fields Fall” and “Could he go after Mac Jones.”

— Chad Forbes (@NFLDraftBites) March 7, 2021

Amúgy nagyon érik egy újabb 5 QB-s első kör.
iktriad

Tuti meglesz.
Lawrence, Wilson, Fields top10. Lance is legkésőbb a Pats körül kimegy. Saints vagy a Steelers meg simán kifogja vinni Jonest , és még egy óriási Trask féle Reach is benne lehet ha mondjuk a QB needes csapatok levesébe beleköp a Falcons vagy a Dolphins.

Hm...

Media driving narrative that Justin Fields could go 2nd Overall and a team must trade into top 5 to land the Ohio St QB. Maybe they’re correct, but it seems like everyone that’s got some league connects is asking “How Far will Fields Fall” and “Could he go after Mac Jones.”

— Chad Forbes (@NFLDraftBites) March 7, 2021

Amúgy nagyon érik egy újabb 5 QB-s első kör.

Kezdődik:

Nem hasonlitjak Luckhoz. Azt mondjak, Luck ota a legtutibb top pick. A ketto nem ugyanaz. Luck annyira tiszta prospect volt, hogy belekotni is csak nagyitoval tudtak,
Stez

Belekötök én neked nagyító nélkül is - Brandon kibaszott Weeden anno legyőzte. Kell ennél nagyobb red flag? 😊 😊 😊

Plusz azt egy scout se szúrta ki, hogy annyira nem érdekli igazán a foci...

Ok, elég volt a sószórásból a sebeidbe, elég lesz neked Wentzet nézni.
iktriad

Mekkora troger scoutok azok, akik nem veszik eszre, hogy ha nullara torik es szakitjak a gyereket, es ujra meg kell tanulnia dobni, meg a teljes mechanikat, akkor besokall es elmegy a kedve.

Hallatlan, milyen szar munkat vegeznek ezek, hogy nincs jovobelato kristalyuk.

Nem hasonlitjak Luckhoz. Azt mondjak, Luck ota a legtutibb top pick. A ketto nem ugyanaz. Luck annyira tiszta prospect volt, hogy belekotni is csak nagyitoval tudtak,
Stez

Belekötök én neked nagyító nélkül is - Brandon kibaszott Weeden anno legyőzte. Kell ennél nagyobb red flag? 😊 😊 😊

Plusz azt egy scout se szúrta ki, hogy annyira nem érdekli igazán a foci...

Ok, elég volt a sószórásból a sebeidbe, elég lesz neked Wentzet nézni.

Mindig van egy tweet - Chris Simms edition

I love hyperbole pic.twitter.com/nGp2uBbs9C

— christian (@slotfade) March 4, 2021

Lawrence lehet ugyanakkora bust lesz mint akárki más, ez ebben az izgalmas
Adirotor

De ez irreleváns, amikor draft előtt van egy konszenzusos 1/1.
Sobri Jóska

Plusz ha azt ideveszem, hogy Elwayhez, Manninghez és Luckhoz hasonlítják, ebből 2 SB győztes lett, Luckot meg még most is visszasírják a Colts topikban, pedig Wentz még pályára se lépett náluk. 😊
iktriad

Nem hasonlitjak Luckhoz. Azt mondjak, Luck ota a legtutibb top pick. A ketto nem ugyanaz. Luck annyira tiszta prospect volt, hogy belekotni is csak nagyitoval tudtak, Lorenzo ezzel szemben egy abszolut nem kiemelkedo even tul. Olyanon, amibe azert tobb helyen bele lehet kotni. Raadasul meg az nfl kozelebe sem kerult, de mar tul van egy komoly vallmuteten.

Ugyhogy az eseteben tovabbra is az a helyzet, hogy no brainer 1/1, de mint prospect, szerintem nincs Manning es Luck szintjen. Az o plafonjuk raadasul magasan volt, mig iden azert nem art megjegyezni, hogy szerintem ha a prospectek plafonjat nezzuk, akkor Lorenzo nincs peldaul Wilson szintjen.

En siman latom azt, hogy ebben a classban a 2-3.kube nehany even belul jobb lehet, mint Lorenzo, es Allenhez hasonloan berobbanhat.

Es egyebkent azert sok scout a potencialt es a plafont nezi, ilyen szinten azert siman lehet, hogy jo par csapatnal Wilson elorebb van.

Csak Lawrence a safe pick.

Mindig van egy tweet - Chris Simms edition

I love hyperbole pic.twitter.com/nGp2uBbs9C

— christian (@slotfade) March 4, 2021

Lawrence lehet ugyanakkora bust lesz mint akárki más, ez ebben az izgalmas
Adirotor

De ez irreleváns, amikor draft előtt van egy konszenzusos 1/1.
Sobri Jóska

Plusz ha azt ideveszem, hogy Elwayhez, Manninghez és Luckhoz hasonlítják, ebből 2 SB győztes lett, Luckot meg még most is visszasírják a Colts topikban, pedig Wentz még pályára se lépett náluk. 😊

Nekem csak egy kérdésem van: mennyit fizethet Mond ügynöke Simms-nek?
r.baggio

Hát az alapján amit Mond letett az egyetemen, én még a 3. körben sem vinném. Totál homály volt a csávó. Érthetetlen hogy lehet top 20 picknek értékelni

Lawrence lehet ugyanakkora bust lesz mint akárki más, ez ebben az izgalmas
Adirotor

De ez irreleváns, amikor draft előtt van egy konszenzusos 1/1.

Lawrence lehet ugyanakkora bust lesz mint akárki más, ez ebben az izgalmas

Szerkesztette: Adirotor

Nekem csak egy kérdésem van: mennyit fizethet Mond ügynöke Simms-nek?
r.baggio

FYI Mond-ot Jay Z ügynöksége, a Roc Nation képviseli. 😉

Nekem csak egy kérdésem van: mennyit fizethet Mond ügynöke Simms-nek?

Itt egy srác megnézte, hogy Simms mennyire jó ezekkel a QB rankingokkal:

 www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/lx4r7s/a_critical_look_at_the_simms_qb_rankings/

Illetve valaki összeszedte, hogy hogyan indokolta a podcastjében:

Zach Wilson: Polished and physically gifted, can make throws with just his arm if needed and only a few guys can do that. Most importantly he's able to make NFL throws and fit the ball into tight windows when the coverage is there. Value: 1st Overall Pick

Trevor Lawrence: A terrific prospect with a couple things to work on. He tends to overthrow the ball or throw it away when the target is tightly covered, knowing that because his team is so talented he'll just have another opportunity later. Footwork leads a lot to be desired when the pocket collapses he gets into trouble. Isn't as gifted or as polished as Wilson, but the talent is there. Value: 1st Overall Pick.

Mac Jones: Consistently accurate, but unspectacular playmaker. He's ready to start for an NFL team right now and can make all the throws, hit all the tight windows accurately, and feel his way around a pocket. He's not quite on the "special" level Lawrence and Wilson are talent wise, but the team that drafts him will have a solid NFL starter for more than a decade. Value: Top 10 Pick

Kellen Mond: He's a machine throwing the ball, his mechanics never break down. Everyone pays attention to wins and stats, but this guy has all the parts of being a great QB. He has great mechanics, he's very consistent with his arm angles, he's got a fantastic release, and great command of the ball. What he needs to work on is reading defenses and looking off defenders, because it seemed like the defenses always knew what he was doing and where the ball is going. But the mechanics are perfect every time, and if you get him into an offense where the coaches can get him confusing the defense to open up WR's and those kinds of things, then he's going to succeed in the NFL. His biggest negative is that he doesn't improvise all that well, and needs to learn to be more intuitive. Value: Top 20 Pick value.

Justin Fields: His best qualities is that he has pure power and athleticism. His running is better than you realize, he's illusive and there's a ton of raw ability there. And he looks great when he puts the pieces together, but that's the problem with Fields: he's only great when he pieces it together, and there's a lack of consistency and he doesn't always put it together. Instead he improvises and relies on his pure athleticism to make up for his inconsistency, and that really only works in college. Improvising to overcome his lack of consistency has also caused a delay in his development as a thrower, so he's more of a project QB than a lot of people want to believe. He's mostly a 1-read thrower at this point, and he tends to go "Oh, my 1 read isn't open, so I'm going to improvise and make it up after that." While you love for your guy to be able to improvise, it's not what you want to be their primary skill. The other thing that is concerning, is that when it gets bad it gets really bad, and his mistakes compound and get worse and worse as he digs himself into a hole. He becomes indecisive after making mistakes, then he's just reckless. He gets loose in his mechanics and his technique falls apart from time to time. No current NFL quarterbacks are successful with as poor of mechanics as Fields has. Fields has a lot of talent, but he also has a lot to fix before he's ready to start in the NFL. He's also the worst short-ball thrower of the group because he always throws like he's going to throw it deep, he doesn't have the proper mechanics to deliver a consistently accurate short pass. Value: Late 1st Round Pick

Trey Lance: When you look at his consistency and mechanics, he's actually better than Fields right now, but the fact is that he just hasn't proven enough. He keeps his feet under him, he keeps his arms up, and the ball explodes out of his hand, but he hasn't show enough to really warrant ranking him higher than any of the others above. He's a 1-read thrower, and you don't see him go through progressions. He's probably the best runner of the draft, but he doesn't have the same physical tools as a passer that Fields does. You don't see a lot out of him that looks like an NFL player, it's either a fantastic deep ball throw or a scramble for a first down. You can see the tools. You can see the mechanics. You can see him working out as a legit NFL QB, but he just needs the reps, he needs to practice, he needs time to develop and prove it. Value: Early 2nd Round Pick.