Big 12

wow, a Texas elnöke nyilvánosan is támogatja a Houston csatlakozását, pedig épp a Horns volt az (a TCU mellett), akit a Cougars mellett az UH ellentáborába soroltak

nagyon illenének a csoportba, örülnék, ha összejönne (egyedül mondjuk a UConnt nem szeretném látni semmiképp a jelöltek közül a Big XII-ben)

Big XII részről is hivatalosan megerősítették, hogy 2 vagy 4 csapattal bővülhet hamarosan a konferencia. Minden bizonnyal ebből a hatosból:

- BYU
- Cincinnati
- Memphis
- Colorado State
- Houston
- UCF

de a UConn is nagyon nyomul még

Szerkesztette: r.baggio

Nincs bővítés (egyelőre), mégis lesz 10 csapattal is két divízió és konfdöntő 2017-től

 twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/727972484897636352

idén nyáron eldőlhetnek a fontos kérdések
 espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14789697/david-boren-oklahoma-sooners-president-says-vote-major-big-12-issues-likely-summer

a Cincy nagyon lobbizik azért a Big XII meghívóért
 www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/02/13/inside-ucs-bid-join-big-12/80280488/

végülis a Memphis helyett nem lennének rosszak ők se (most újították fel és bővítették a focistadiont, a kosárprogram is erős, stb.), akár az empty-féle csoportfelosztásban

Földrajzi elveken való igaz nehéz, ha kiegyensúlyozott csoportokat akarnak.
Saját terv, egyenlően elosztva Texas, Oklahoma és Kansas állam csapatai, persze ez így több kötöttséget fog jelenteni a schedule-ben az állami rivalizálások miatt:
A csoport:
Oklahoma
TCU
Texas Tech
Colorado State
Kansas State
Iowa State
B csoport:
Texas
West Virginia
Kansas
Oklahoma State
Baylor
Memphis

az alábbi csapatok az esélyesek a konferenciaváltásra (én az első kettőt vinném): Colorado State, Memphis, BYU, Connecticut, Cincinnati, Central Florida, South Florida, Houston
baggio

memphis? a 2015-ös szereplésükön kívül (avagy praxton lynch) nem igazán említettek (vagy csak én nem látom). football szempontjából houston lehet jó (tom herman). piac szempontjából florida.
de ezek csak felületes gondolatok a részemről. mi a meglátásod, jj?
Ventura

Nagy piac SEC-s területen (tehát egyfajta visszavágás lehetne a Texas A&M-ért), nagy és jó állapotú stadion, remek kosárprogram, egyben nyitás keletre a West Virginia felé. A focicsapat pálfordulásában nemcsak a QB-nak és a HC-nek volt komoly szerepe, hanem a 2012-ben érkezett új AD-nek is, amíg sikerül megtartani Tom Bowent, nagy visszaesésre nem kell számítani.

A Houston esélytelen a texasi csapatok lobbija miatt, a Colorado State viszont most épít új stadiont a kampuszon, Szerintem telitalálat lenne ez a kettős, bár a probléma megint az lenne, hogy lehetne egyenlően felosztani két divízióra a 12 csapatot.

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az alábbi csapatok az esélyesek a konferenciaváltásra (én az első kettőt vinném): Colorado State, Memphis, BYU, Connecticut, Cincinnati, Central Florida, South Florida, Houston
baggio

memphis? a 2015-ös szereplésükön kívül (avagy praxton lynch) nem igazán említettek (vagy csak én nem látom). football szempontjából houston lehet jó (tom herman). piac szempontjából florida.
de ezek csak felületes gondolatok a részemről. mi a meglátásod, jj?

Oklahoma elnöke erősen elkezdett lobbizni a 12 tagra való bővítésért, amelyhez elsőként a West Virginia csatlakozott. Nem tudom mire lesz ez elég, de legalább megy már a párbeszéd róla. Ha materializálódik a dolog, akkor az alábbi csapatok az esélyesek a konferenciaváltásra (én az első kettőt vinném): Colorado State, Memphis, BYU, Connecticut, Cincinnati, Central Florida, South Florida, Houston

ezek tökhülyék, de hát bowlsby-tól nem is vártam mást

 twitter.com/roberthorvath24/status/687388836498948096
baggio

a nem bővítésnek nem örülök, de az, hogy lesz konferencia döntő, nagyon örülök!

ezek tökhülyék, de hát bowlsby-tól nem is vártam mást

 twitter.com/roberthorvath24/status/687388836498948096
baggio

Pedig egy Memphis vagy Houston elférne még.
Shawn84

A Memphis túl sok ideig volt katasztrofális futballban, 2 évnyi változás még semmit nem jelent, más texasi csapat pedig végképp esélytelen. De egyértelmű mondjuk, hogy a Texas bárkit megfúr.

ezek tökhülyék, de hát bowlsby-tól nem is vártam mást

 twitter.com/roberthorvath24/status/687388836498948096
baggio

Pedig egy Memphis vagy Houston elférne még.

ezek tökhülyék, de hát bowlsby-tól nem is vártam mást

 twitter.com/roberthorvath24/status/687388836498948096

😀😀😀DDDDDDDDDD
 collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/07/wvus-daejuan-funderburk-arrested-dismissed-after-exposing-himself-to-hotel-maid/

 www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/9/1/9092301/baylor-tcu-rivalry-game-2015 !! Egész jó !

 www.ourdailybears.com/big-12-conference/2015/5/6/8561725/big-12-conference-abolishes-football-co-champions-adopts-championship

The top 25 Texas high school recruiting steals of the past decade
 www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/headlines/20130204-the-top-25-texas-high-school-recruiting-steals-of-the-past-decade.ece?hootPostID=a6038c39a63711aca84898cf2ac5c5b0

rangsorolatlan, 2 és 3 csillagos játékosok. sokan közülük az NFL-ben! aquib talibtól russel okungig.
(és ne feledjük, hogy az idei super bowl-ban egy középiskolai 5*-os játékos sem volt)

Az Oklahoma nemrég mindkét két-OC-jét elküldte, helyükre pedig Lincoln Riley, az East Carolina eddigi offenzív koordinátora érkezik, nagy fogás. Riley visszatér a konferenciába, korábban Leach alatt volt a Texas Tech-nél WR coach

"To recap, #Texas #Baylor & #Oklahoma all get #ESPN300 commits in less than 2 hours. #Longhorns 2 four-star's*, and headed to a Top 10 class"

*javítás: a texas egy 5*-os és egy 4*-os játékost szerezett meg.

Knight játszhat a Russell Athletic Bowlon.

jó hát ilyen alapon ezer más ötletről is beszélni a college football jobbá tételében 😊 pl. végre kiválhatnának a Power 5-osok az NCAA-ből létrehozva egy semi-pro ligát, lehetne 8 csapatos PO hat 10 csapatos konferenciával, satöbbi-satöbbi...

A konferencia egy csapat körül forog, ez pedig a Texas, mellettük még az Oklahoma véleménye számít, a többiek pedig hű csatlósként követik őket, mert szinte teljesen rájuk vannak utalva... baggio

kár érte. azért jó eljátszani a gondolattal.

"So I know there have been and will continue to be debates on whether Baylor/TCU deserved to be in the playoff or not. But ultimately, that doesn't matter - they aren't in, and that's not gonna change. So the question becomes, where do they go from here? They could just complain a bit, finish grumbling and stand pat, hope that either Texas and/or Oklahoma get out of their funks (because let's face it, you can't ignore the factor Ohio State's name played) or have one team run away with the conference decisively next year and hope that next time will be different. However, given how this situation played out, you've got to think changes will be on the horizon for the conference. Especially in regards to a conference championship game.

I mean, look at the Pac-12. Oregon lost to Arizona earlier this year, just as TCU lost to Baylor earlier this year. The difference? Oregon played Arizona again in a conference championship at the end of the year and won decisively, and absolutely no one's questioning whether Oregon deserves to be in or not. I know why the Big XII did it the way they did - even though everybody with half a brain realizes that head-to-head ought to be the first tiebreaker, TCU was 'in' the playoff according to the earlier rankings, Baylor wasn't, and so to preserve the chance TCU kept their place, there was all this 'co-champion' bollocks so that TCU could be recognized as a conference 'champion' against all the rest. End result - they both got shut out, and the conference looks like absolute fools.

So to get to a championship game, the NCAA has ruled that you have to have 12 teams for a conference championship. And so back we go to that ever ignominious specter of conference realignment so that the Big XII can get back to 12 (at the very least). Pretty much every other Power 5 conference has locked in every member through various contracts, so you've got to look outside those conferences for new members. So who do we have? Out of all the names I've heard for possible prospects, here are the ones that make the most sense (to me):

BYU - From my perspective, the most obvious choice - they went independent but now realize that they don't have any pull without a conference alignment and are pretty much begging for someone to take them in. They've got a good history and a decent 'market' with Salt Lake City. They're also not 'just' a football school, having had some college basketball success as well. The religious thing isn't that big of a deal with the Big XII either - I mean, look at Baylor. The biggest problem they have is they're not exactly close to any of the other members, and I have a feeling that the conference wants to avoid another West Virginia situation where they have one member out in the middle of nowhere compared to the others - especially one on the other side of the country to the outlier they already have.

Cincinnati - The other 'obvious' choice - at least to me. They've twice been to BCS bowls and have a pretty good football record as of late, and they've also got a great basketball program. They're in a pretty good market, in a relatively strong football recruiting state. They also offer the opportunity of giving West Virginia a natural in-conference rival to counteract the whole 'island' problem mentioned earlier. Really, the only downside they have is that they don't otherwise make a pair with any other school the conference could bring in.

Boise State - Their biggest advantage is pretty simple - they're pretty much unquestionably the most successful team not currently within a Power 5 conference. If the question was only football resume, they'd be an obvious pick. The problem is, well... everything else. Boise is close to absolutely nowhere, they bring no market and they're not known for pretty much anything other than football and the blue turf. Still, there's no other school with a football profile like theirs, so you can't entirely rule them out.

Central Florida - They're an up and coming team that would put the Big XII in two of the three biggest football states in the country, and in comparison to say, Boise, I think you'll have much less grumbling about having to travel to Orlando. They've been to a BCS game (beating the Big XII champ in the process), so despite not having much of a history, they wouldn't exactly come out of nowhere. But the problem still remains that they would again be on an 'island', given that there's no Big XII team anywhere near Florida, dictating a lot of travel for them.

Colorado State - They've got a spot in the Denver market and unless something changes, an annual game with another Power 5 team in the Rocky Mountain Showdown with Colorado. In comparison to pretty much every other team listed, Fort Collins is within reasonable distance to the Big XII 'heartland' - after all, CU was a Big XII member before they jumped ship. The only problem is that they don't really have any athletic history to speak of - sure, they had a pretty good year this year, but outside of that, what have they ever done?

I think those are the most sensible five - among the others I've heard, there's South Florida (almost entirely in conjunction with adding Central Florida), Memphis (because basketball, I guess? I don't see it, myself), and the other former SWC members - Houston, Rice and SMU. The problem I see with those last three is that they really don't bring anything that the conference doesn't already have (aside from membership numbers). If you wanna go really out there, I suppose you could look at some of the other, further MWC members (UNLV? San Diego or Fresno St.?) or maybe even something like Northern Illinois and hope to make some sort of minor dent in the Chicago area.

As far as my own thoughts - I'm gonna say go big and try and 'connect' all the dots together - bring in Cincy to help out with West Virginia, then get a western trio in BYU, Colorado State and Boise State. Then split up the conference like so:

"Midwest":
Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Cincinnati, West Virginia

"Southwest":
Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Colorado State, BYU, Boise State

Then for conference scheduling, have the six divisional games, one set cross-divisional game and two more rotating cross-divisional games. As conceited as this is gonna sound coming from a Texas fan, the only cross-divisional game that would have to be set in stone for this scenario is Texas-Oklahoma - the others are pretty much whatever. The only thing I would set, however, is having the 'Great Plains' teams (Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State) be set up with the 'Western' teams (BYU, Colorado State, Boise State) so as to minimize the cross-country travel. Something like this:

Texas-Oklahoma
Texas Tech-Oklahoma State
Baylor-West Virginia
TCU-Cincinnati
Boise State-Kansas State
BYU-Kansas
Colorado State-Iowa State

And voila. And yeah, that set up would have potential for a second Red River game in a year for a conference championship should UT and OU start reaching dominance once again - but at the very least Texas-Oklahoma is always in early October, so you wouldn't have them playing each other near back to back weeks like other notable rivalry games.

Anyways, those are my thoughts on the subject. Other opinions on what the Big XII should do with the situation at hand?"

Azért jó lenne, ha Malcom Brownt legalább ilyen all-conf képen nem Malcolmoznák le 😊.Robilluma

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